Clemens just reached Pete Rose level

[burton2019]

good points lads, while i agree that he nor bonds technically "cheated"....i still believe clemens is trash...lol

[sup-rbeast]

I don't know anything about his private life, nor do I want to. He was the greatest pitcher of the past 25 years tho...

[Biggin]

all you people defending clemens


did you defend barry with the same zest?


if not, then you are a hypocrite


smoltz>clemens

[imported_PioneerBlue]

Who cares if baseball had rules against it?? It was ILLEGAL so therefore both of them are garbage.

[1inStripes]

And here I was thinking the manufacturering of, and use of steroids were against the law (unless produced by a pharmacy, and legal by prescription)? I guess breaking the law isn't cheating though.

[imported_Counts]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1inStripes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And here I was thinking the manufacturering of, and use of steroids were against the law (unless produced by a pharmacy, and legal by prescription)? I guess breaking the law isn't cheating though. </div></div>


No it is not cheating and IMHO no differant than Strawberry's drug problems (Or if you look at the NFL Farves or LT (Lawarence Taylors) Drug issues and I do not see anyone going around saying that they cheated)


I feel the same about Bonds Drug wise.

And while I think baseball has been to tough on Pete Rose at lest Gambeling WAS against baseball rules before he did it

[Monkeyhead]

Cocaine does not build muscles like DECA. Not the best two to compare.

[1inStripes]

IMO if its against the law, its against the rules of any athletic event.

[sup-rbeast]

Breaking the law is not cheating. If so and so gets arrested for disorderly conduct, that's breaking the law...is it cheating. NO. If what your doing isn't against the rules of the game, it doesn't matter if it's legal or illegal..it still isn't cheating.

Gosh...are we gonna have to sort thru the spitters and re-write the record book ,too?